tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post5848754287859901160..comments2023-05-09T06:00:19.599-04:00Comments on Autistic Hoya — A blog by Lydia X. Z. Brown (2011-2020): What is a shiny Aspie?Lydia Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13484063914873791571noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-32594834588775696372021-11-11T12:10:49.112-05:002021-11-11T12:10:49.112-05:00Thank you for this blog and this discussion on par...Thank you for this blog and this discussion on particular. This is an interesting topic. I do not believe that I would be considered as a "shiny" autistic, as I identify as autistic and have issues that could be considered disabling. Unfortunately, I'm not able to be recognized as disabled, I'm just viewed as defective. Case in point: I was recently taken to task by my Enajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16144583454276519881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-58479590884608200622020-09-05T23:26:44.231-04:002020-09-05T23:26:44.231-04:00Thank you very much for your explanations about th...Thank you very much for your explanations about the "shiny aspies". I was looking for a sort of "translation" of this term in French, having a rather vague idea of what it is. Now with your article, all is very clear. <br />I see this phenomenon of narcissist Asperger's in various countries, and IMO this is a problem. Out of the scope of the present post.<br /><br />(Btw. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09002949058705302096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-76460179441477979732018-03-28T15:18:14.393-04:002018-03-28T15:18:14.393-04:00Does that make me a shiny aspie? I produced a film...Does that make me a shiny aspie? I produced a film on Asperger's that became popular. I never ever want society to use it as a mold for every person on the spectrum though. It's just the experience of certain people, and I included as many as I could to show the diversity.<br /><br />It's honestly really mind-effing living in an NT world, being expected to be normal even at showings Lushiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14382189169839086175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-66136007367743404752018-02-01T07:47:13.348-05:002018-02-01T07:47:13.348-05:00I am aspie from 1997 and even though I do not rec...I am aspie from 1997 and even though I do not recognize DSM-5 and refer to myself as a Neurpie. I am not a shiny aspie or allistic either. Follow up comments are to be sent mikemccroskery@yahoo.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845236482968383429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-79640955956899436312018-01-30T00:11:48.853-05:002018-01-30T00:11:48.853-05:00Ruben, starting an at-home business is not realist...Ruben, starting an at-home business is not realistic for most people, neurodivergent or not. It requires start up money, a specialized, and access to clients. For a lot of people, it's hide it or starve.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934472566927474287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-80726080393180691852017-11-17T00:22:39.993-05:002017-11-17T00:22:39.993-05:00I'm sorry, I can't get on board with most ...I'm sorry, I can't get on board with most of this. Yes, all people should be treated like worthy, wonderful human beings. I don't like the metrics of what determines superiority in our society. (financial security + social skills = success). However, it is what it is. And trying to change those definitions is USELESS. This is why I don't mind being a self-narrating zoo; I'm Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01901939400327135690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-85961360806340203762016-10-10T03:36:18.129-04:002016-10-10T03:36:18.129-04:00This person actually was saying they want not to b...This person actually was saying they want not to be criticised for "faking normalcy" in order to be able to keep a job, not saying that they couldn't keep a job or that it wasn't working for them.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07660865084627912068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-31505025871320041102015-11-26T12:07:58.920-05:002015-11-26T12:07:58.920-05:00Unfortunately the beliefs of a few shiny aspies of...Unfortunately the beliefs of a few shiny aspies of the supremacist variety has been used to successfully stigmatize all who identify as Aspie to the point that many people who used to identify as Aspie have run away from the label. What was a positive thing, a cute name that helped adults from the lost generations find out thier traits are not charactor flaws and there others like them has turnedAutisticSince1957https://www.blogger.com/profile/07700590802057803680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-51925332461769258372015-07-29T12:35:22.219-04:002015-07-29T12:35:22.219-04:00Start your own business, work from home. That'...Start your own business, work from home. That's what I'm doing anyway. (pdd-nos guy) If you can't deal with clients, have someone else do that part for you. Make sure that person knows about your challenges. If you think in terms of solutions rather than having fun with complaining, I'm sure you can make that happen.Rubenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01003905022333747555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-33559250130245660412014-09-30T22:59:11.361-04:002014-09-30T22:59:11.361-04:00What am I supposed to do then? If I act naturally...What am I supposed to do then? If I act naturally I can't keep a job and I can't get disability because I look too normal what do I do? Neurotypicals hate me Autistics hate me I can't do anything right no matter what whether I act naturally or act like neurotypical I'm shot no matter what I do. What am I supposed to do? How do I resolve this conflict? Where is the middle Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-7033248473285786592013-11-11T10:44:53.240-05:002013-11-11T10:44:53.240-05:00I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 1994 and ha...I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 1994 and have shiny Aspie tendencies. I went to college and got a degree and have been job hunting some since then. I may date once I have a job. My mom (not on the spectrum but had some mental illness as a young woman) wasn't into men until about age 30. She game dated at my age, 20's (I'm 24).aspiegurlhttp://aspieracefangurl.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-85625600874307970182013-09-27T17:48:18.391-04:002013-09-27T17:48:18.391-04:00The issue is less one of what individual people wa...The issue is less one of what individual people want or have to do in their lives and more how they frame it and how the world reacts to it. Namely the mentality of "I'm/you're okay, but those OTHER autistic people who flap in public/don't speak/have bowel problems/etc... I don't know, man..." or any variation on that. Some people have to pass to survive in some ways, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07331145210782053830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-55193424446108618662013-09-24T02:31:47.298-04:002013-09-24T02:31:47.298-04:00look, i have looked at myself, and i guess people ...look, i have looked at myself, and i guess people would think i am a shiny aspie. i am self confident, i have a moderate group of friends, i talk, i wear makeup,, i seem 'high functioning. <br /><br />is it really right for other Autistic's to hate on 'shiny Aspie's?<br />"<br />i am as devoted to neurodiversity as you are, but i am not hating anyone else because they are Julia Pillainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-81187233781006496282013-09-16T23:42:14.414-04:002013-09-16T23:42:14.414-04:00"if I hold a job, if I have a doctorate, if I..."if I hold a job, if I have a doctorate, if I can type and speak and all that, people don't treat me like a freak or a burden."<br /><br />Yup, that's true, and understandable, and a Catch-22 that a whole bunch of us have been pressured into. And it's also wrong.<br /><br />I want to be the best at my job in the world, because that would be fun and awesome (um, and maybe Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-9742051256649319482013-09-16T23:31:38.484-04:002013-09-16T23:31:38.484-04:00Except that Helen Keller wasn't really that tr...Except that Helen Keller wasn't really that trope at all. People tried to make her into that, to smother the messages that she actually devoted her life to, which was radically standing up for the poor and marginalized.<br /><br />But yeah...think of the way that Helen Keller is most commonly portrayed--as an inoffensive inspiration for what "overcoming" disability can be. That&#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-4903079299028021532013-09-14T14:07:21.617-04:002013-09-14T14:07:21.617-04:00Shiny Aspie: the Helen Keller of the Autistic Worl...Shiny Aspie: the Helen Keller of the Autistic World. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-26407406855258249762013-09-09T22:10:33.847-04:002013-09-09T22:10:33.847-04:00The "you're too high-functioning!" t...The "you're too high-functioning!" thing is frustrating and wrong on a bunch of levels, but it seems to come down to how we have to play up what makes us "less" in people's minds in order to argue that no one should be treated as less to begin with, and either way the focus becomes our legitimacy as a speaker rather than the idea itself.<br /><br />And yet how hard Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07331145210782053830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-62887212509835698692013-09-09T18:58:32.247-04:002013-09-09T18:58:32.247-04:00Interesting, and that does make sense about people...Interesting, and that does make sense about people using labels to try and push me out of the autistic debate. With the Stapleton case coming to the forefront of the news, I've been shouted down on various news sites because Issy Stapleton was not as "high functioning" as me (direct quote, not my words - I find functioning labels problematic). It fires me up and makes me want to getAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-15844239060204900162013-09-09T02:22:03.655-04:002013-09-09T02:22:03.655-04:00Yup, mixed messages are exhausting, which is why i...Yup, mixed messages are exhausting, which is why it's vital to examine and decide what you really believe--about yourself, about your identity and the language you use for it, about how it's okay to treat other people...other people can't tell you those things. You have to use your own self-knowledge and values.<br /><br />And yeah, sometimes mine conflict with major factions of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-13474245463028859052013-09-08T15:30:17.474-04:002013-09-08T15:30:17.474-04:00I know I'm late to the party on this one, but ...I know I'm late to the party on this one, but I was linked to this post by a friend and find it both interesting and problematic. I probably fit the "shiny Aspie" mold - I do try to pass as well as I can. I do want normative success. I don't want a cure to be forced on anyone, however. <br /><br />But, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I read a bit of distaste into this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-15170071780100313872013-06-28T12:18:57.853-04:002013-06-28T12:18:57.853-04:00I wish I could have and keep a job without having ...I wish I could have and keep a job without having to suppress my Autistic traits, that would probably be my dream job. <br /><br />Dating, in itself, doesn't necessarily signify conventional success; Not if you're dating another Aspie and you're both barely self-sufficient financially. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-58675026438083453562013-05-19T12:16:00.574-04:002013-05-19T12:16:00.574-04:00It can also include autistic women who have chosen...It can also include autistic women who have chosen to master their gender expectations: gossiping, wearing makeup, and shopping for trendy clothes with their "girlfriends". Alexis Wineman is a good example of one. On one hand, she does break the stereotype of autistics being ugly and geeky. But she does reinforce the idea that girls should be physically attractive if they want to be Chelseahttp://cheetahchottahpress.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-68294015471226492752013-05-17T15:15:23.092-04:002013-05-17T15:15:23.092-04:00i have aspergers, and i would say i fit this mold ...i have aspergers, and i would say i fit this mold of a "shiny aspie" to an extent. i differ from your model in that i dont pride myself on it, dont talk about it, and definitely dont think that "those poor low-functioning people with autism" should be cured. yes i try to assimilate into normal society, and do a decent job accomplishing that, but i do so not because i see Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026044463056955814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-17489197565560173972013-05-11T05:29:34.511-04:002013-05-11T05:29:34.511-04:00This definition from "Wikibin" elaborate...This definition from "Wikibin" elaborates more on the Pejorative Usage of the term that is also used as Shiny Autistic:<br /><br />http://wikibin.org/articles/shiny-autistic.html<br /><br />"Shiny autistic<br /><br />Shiny autistic is a term used in the Autistic community to denote an individual who is held up as an example of 'what autistics should be'.<br /><br />Most Katie Mia Frederickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336627766755378406noreply@blogger.com