tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post1035957560372408730..comments2023-05-09T06:00:19.599-04:00Comments on Autistic Hoya — A blog by Lydia X. Z. Brown (2011-2020): Identity and Hypocrisy: A Second Argument Against Person-First LanguageLydia Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13484063914873791571noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-35778039151363263412021-03-22T10:53:55.887-04:002021-03-22T10:53:55.887-04:00I'm recently diagnosed at 55. I don't expe...I'm recently diagnosed at 55. I don't experience being autistic as a disorder or disability. My daughter, 18 also autistic, experiences several disorders (fibromialgia, sensory processing disorder, ADHD) that commonly overlap with autism. For her, being autistic carries comorbid conditions. For me, the main one that I'm aware of is rejection sensitivity dysphoria, which I suffer from Lilac Armbusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459722853068966262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-50686322686610963382019-04-08T14:06:10.154-04:002019-04-08T14:06:10.154-04:00I agree with the 5/27/12 post from Anonymous, and ...I agree with the 5/27/12 post from Anonymous, and with Ashley Nance. My daughter has autism, and I started advocating on her behalf almost 25 years ago. I chose then to use person-first language and descriptors, because I wanted school officials and medical personnel and everyone else to see her as I did: a bright, sensitive, fun, little girl who has brown hair and likes to draw and the color JLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17067631251667804193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-18850317117718085542017-03-10T22:16:41.730-05:002017-03-10T22:16:41.730-05:00So, I am a non-autistic parent and sibling, and I ...So, I am a non-autistic parent and sibling, and I tell people This is my daughter. To some people, usually close friends and family members, I tell them she has been diagnosed with autism.<br /><br />You have every right to determine what parts of you you adopt as identifiers. I was born and raised in New York but don't consider myself a New Yorker. I have a bright, spunky, delightful child Ashley L. Nancehttp://www.theteachathomemom.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-59665207126039654052015-03-13T17:43:36.204-04:002015-03-13T17:43:36.204-04:00While I agree with your post, I use both in my wri...While I agree with your post, I use both in my writing because people-first language is a hard-fought battle of disability rights advocates and the disability rights movement that was sought for people with disabilities as a group.<br /><br />It is among their many attempts to create a disability culture that goes beyond a particular disability. The fact that the autistic culture is at odds with Stephanie Allen Cristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15262777774124125043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-36167527934502500322014-09-15T11:36:24.672-04:002014-09-15T11:36:24.672-04:00I wrote something similar on this subject myself. ...I wrote something similar on this subject myself. I don't call myself a person with womanhood or a person with Canadianess. I don't call my friends "people with friendship," nor do I call my sister, "my person with sisterhood." As I believe Ari Ne'eman said, when I go on a trip I don't forget to pack my autism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-39781263625321953782014-06-25T18:13:24.034-04:002014-06-25T18:13:24.034-04:00I need to use crutches as a result of an operation...I need to use crutches as a result of an operation gone wrong, and I call myself a cripple. That isn't because I feel overly negative about being a crutches user, though, it's just my way of accepting my current physical reality.Sheogorathhttp://www.aspergernauts.co.uk/forumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-46008020763596863392014-06-02T01:11:23.188-04:002014-06-02T01:11:23.188-04:00I understand identity to mean, the defining charac...I understand identity to mean, the defining characteristics of an individual person's life. Primarily, we have three major ways of forming our identities as individuals. What we are (i.e. disabled, Asian, American, etc.), what we do (i.e. writer, student, activist, etc.), and what we experience (more broadly defined than by individual terms, though some exist, like survivor). Different peopleLydia X. Z. Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04500253664516894122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-30332714450512166722014-06-02T01:08:21.874-04:002014-06-02T01:08:21.874-04:00When you are writing the word "identity,"...<br />When you are writing the word "identity," do you instead mean "membership in a group or category"? I'm trying, and failing, to understand your use of the word "identity."<br /><br />KateGladstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07062492442607584456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-9805076836534396312014-05-28T18:28:00.332-04:002014-05-28T18:28:00.332-04:00I like your last sentence so true. What we will le...I like your last sentence so true. What we will leave behind as far how people will remember us. We identify our selves. than other will always have others words to describe us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10593549881428666850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-327507692944036752013-08-16T02:04:42.004-04:002013-08-16T02:04:42.004-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.KateGladstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07062492442607584456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-18677144403870988512013-06-13T22:08:25.032-04:002013-06-13T22:08:25.032-04:00What I am about to say is not a valuation of you a...What I am about to say is not a valuation of you as a person or your identity as an autistic: I very much endorse your right to explore what gives life meaning and to push back against other people's conceptions or preconceptions about you or what makes life meaningful. I just want to say that I honestly don't buy that the phrase "person with autism" (or "person with AutismAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-84437867237445716722013-03-13T10:23:08.172-04:002013-03-13T10:23:08.172-04:00Really wonderful article and a subject that has be...Really wonderful article and a subject that has been on my mind quite a bit. As the parent of two children - both whom are autistic, I find myself using person first when I don't feel like it's necessarily the best choice of wording simply because I don't want to upset the autism community. But this autism community's voice seems to be made up mostly of parents and educators who NHS Websitehttp://tophlthsites.com/health-websites/nhs-website/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-59454251098353164742012-11-13T22:50:25.683-05:002012-11-13T22:50:25.683-05:00Love this post.
It's the same reason I call ...Love this post. <br /><br />It's the same reason I call myself Blind and not a person with blindness. Or say that I have blindness. <br />It's the same reason I call myself Queer, and not a person with queerness. Or say that I have queerness.<br /><br />Also, this page is super-mega-accessible for me, BTW. And for those who don't already think Autistic Hoya is full of awesome, she Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-23268685892493309482012-11-04T23:46:16.268-05:002012-11-04T23:46:16.268-05:00Ah, cool. I'm so glad to read this. Whether it...Ah, cool. I'm so glad to read this. Whether it's Chicana or Latina or Hispanic, Deaf or Hard-of-Hearing or Hearing-Impaired, Dyke or Lesbian or Queer, Quadriplegic or Gimp or Wheelchair user, the words we use to describe ourselves through our lives also describe our attitude toward those aspects of our lives. Precisely because we are alive, we change and grow and move into varied Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09379987075167221943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-24540094793874560422012-06-16T01:38:23.802-04:002012-06-16T01:38:23.802-04:00I've never been fond of People First language ...I've never been fond of People First language but know so many who get offended if I don't use it. So I feel I never know what to say. Nice argument though, much appreciated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-18925627761131097762012-06-02T16:10:53.733-04:002012-06-02T16:10:53.733-04:00If you really think that you are being called not ...If you really think that you are being called not human because you are called diabetic then I think you need to calm down a bit, because I can only imagine the most lucid people calling diabetics non-human.<br /><br />If you don't want to seperate autism from yourself, then you are autistic. Aby other complaint against it... well to be honest you're arguing poor semantics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-12993920367831493412012-05-27T22:16:34.095-04:002012-05-27T22:16:34.095-04:00Personally, I prefer saying that we (my son and I)...Personally, I prefer saying that we (my son and I) have autism. <br />Not that I don't totally understand that "we are autistic" and that's part of our identity. It's not something we have like a disease, or received in the mail, or that we own like a sofa. <br />However, I was diagnosed with Diabetes (Type 1 aka Juvenile Diabetes) and I cringed when people referred to meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-16313812786699168132012-04-22T19:15:35.758-04:002012-04-22T19:15:35.758-04:00P.S I would never introduce my child with a refere...P.S I would never introduce my child with a reference to Autism...<br />and discourse is awesomeHannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08819262159652755479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-68484710879417076462012-04-22T19:02:12.384-04:002012-04-22T19:02:12.384-04:00"This is my son Isaac, he's autistic"..."This is my son Isaac, he's autistic"<br />"This is my autistic son, Isaac"<br />"This is Isaac, he has Autism"<br />"This is Isaac"..... wait for him to run away avoiding social pleasantries.... "He is autistic" or "He has autism"...<br />In order of priority; "this is Isaac, my son who is autistic" <br />Does it come downHannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08819262159652755479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-14259880913616417462012-02-18T08:01:35.350-05:002012-02-18T08:01:35.350-05:00Love this. Thankyou. I am one of those parents of ...Love this. Thankyou. I am one of those parents of children on the autism spectrum who never identify them with an "autism" label, except when I write about the challenges faced and how they were overcome or not overcome. It is merely a part of what makes them who they are..only part of the equation not the entire formula. In fact I have come under severe hostile criticism for that. I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-7806071515219039042012-01-14T14:51:52.694-05:002012-01-14T14:51:52.694-05:00If people are giving you pity, they're NOT giv...If people are giving you pity, they're NOT giving you respect.Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424036357963352399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-86453845313171202472012-01-14T10:50:50.515-05:002012-01-14T10:50:50.515-05:00Amen. I have been saying this for years....and 35...Amen. I have been saying this for years....and 35 years ago I started out working as live in staff with people who were being deinstitutionalized. And wondered why we seemed more alike than different....Jane Strausshttp://www.a-part-or-apart.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-91746763574178025292011-12-01T17:13:04.471-05:002011-12-01T17:13:04.471-05:00With you 100%, Lydia. Well said.With you 100%, Lydia. Well said.Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424036357963352399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-12700208463237205622011-11-30T12:53:00.014-05:002011-11-30T12:53:00.014-05:00Expressing things with extra words is usually a si...Expressing things with extra words is usually a sign of concern or pity and not respect in my experience. Anyone have English counter examples to that notion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-34379375618246284512011-11-30T06:18:14.005-05:002011-11-30T06:18:14.005-05:00Indeed person first language actually demeans the ...Indeed person first language actually demeans the person in this way. It attempts to dissociate them from some characteristic and in so doing defines that characteristic as bad, by virtue of it being necessary to dissociate from, however by flagging it up as a bad thing to dissociate from it fails in that endeavour and merely re-inforces the association, but in a negative way.Larry Arnold PhD FRSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05074432718592268750noreply@blogger.com