tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post6690570757294576325..comments2023-05-09T06:00:19.599-04:00Comments on Autistic Hoya — A blog by Lydia X. Z. Brown (2011-2020): The Significance of Semantics: Person-First Language: Why It MattersLydia Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13484063914873791571noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-81160869178720374942021-04-15T15:15:44.150-04:002021-04-15T15:15:44.150-04:00Hello, I'm sure you're aware by now but yo...Hello, I'm sure you're aware by now but your audio files run through Adobe Flash Player, which is no longer supported, therefore the audio files are not playable. This is not a problem for myself, but I was unsure about those who may prefer or require audio vs. visual text. Obviously this is an old article, but it is also linked to the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network and there may be new Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00909544200972832599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-9999510771561218442021-03-21T20:10:50.646-04:002021-03-21T20:10:50.646-04:00Is there polling on the preference in the ASD comm...Is there polling on the preference in the ASD community between identity-first and person-first labels?Jordyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06927595042723366124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-5511581599840700082020-10-19T17:04:07.603-04:002020-10-19T17:04:07.603-04:00This is a very insightful article and I am gratefu...This is a very insightful article and I am grateful for the perspective you have given me, since I am not autistic and have used person-first language in the past while working in the field of education and mental health. I was curious as to one subject that I haven't seen in any comments on here. I know a lot of people who refer to either themselves or others as "on the spectrum". Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12097258387839573417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-44493469813906550222019-07-09T03:25:18.807-04:002019-07-09T03:25:18.807-04:00Whoa! What a total relief to read this article Lyd...Whoa! What a total relief to read this article Lydia! I'm autistic. Diagnosed only 4 years ago at age 48! It has rocked my world in both good (great) but also complex and tough ways. I was also soon after diagnosed with significant ADHD. But these diagnoses come after a loooong struggle with very significant CTD (complex trauma disorder - or C-PTSD). So the symptoms of this have hidden / Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12527752205580447363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-12572492609474523352018-09-05T10:28:25.347-04:002018-09-05T10:28:25.347-04:00Really like this article. Also I saw a transgender...Really like this article. Also I saw a transgender awareness patch by SapphicStitches on Etsy that said ‘My pronouns are not preferred they are mandatory.’ It made me think that for Autistic people, the decision to call ourselves Autistic or saying I have autism is a bit like our preferred (mandatory) pronouns. Moon6Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18011629048830620421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-69724423606148064932016-07-29T19:41:03.782-04:002016-07-29T19:41:03.782-04:00Temple Grandin learning to speak isn't like a ...Temple Grandin learning to speak isn't like a Deaf person learning to hear - it's like a Deaf person learning to read lips and speak. She didn't get less autistic just because she learnt to talk. In fact, brain scans show that she uses a very different process to speak and understand speech than most people, because one of the primary language areas is not functioning properly in Ettinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08230821659466586897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-32097187568245710132016-07-29T19:32:53.074-04:002016-07-29T19:32:53.074-04:00"Cancer is a disease that ultimately kills if..."Cancer is a disease that ultimately kills if not treated or put into long-term remission. There is absolutely nothing positive, edifying, or meaningful about cancer. Cancer is not a part of a person’s identity or the way in which an individual experiences and understands the world around him or her. It is not all-pervasive."<br /><br />The cancer itself isn't part of someone's Ettinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08230821659466586897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-44032971701086234852016-04-13T13:46:33.034-04:002016-04-13T13:46:33.034-04:00Perhaps people are both "autistic people"...Perhaps people are both "autistic people" and "people with autism"? Certain aspects of autism are clearly part of a person e.g. thinking "outside the box", noticing how odd certain social norms are, realizing how much of mainstream society is based upon implications. Others are clearly separate e.g. how well people articulate themselves, getting thoughts across, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-66732441869796604342015-03-22T22:31:18.546-04:002015-03-22T22:31:18.546-04:00As a spectrumite, I enthusiastically endorse this ...As a spectrumite, I enthusiastically endorse this article. Being "on the spectrum" is not something that's separate from me; if I were not autistic, I would be a very different person.<br /><br />It happens that I have a particularly sharp comparison close to hand: One of my sisters is just as intelligent as me -- she went to MIT while I went to Harvard. She's a remarkably Dave Harmonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-6506302741419715742014-10-03T19:16:25.433-04:002014-10-03T19:16:25.433-04:00Lydia, if it is necessary to use a label, I believ...Lydia, if it is necessary to use a label, I believe the best one to use is the label preferred by the person being labeled. Barring that information, the next best label is the one preferred by people like you, leading advocates of the community who are being labeled. With fondness to you, I am Dave in New Jersey, a fellow Hoya with a lifelong disability.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05290809908009093063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-59221081559319009652014-05-15T13:15:14.497-04:002014-05-15T13:15:14.497-04:00Please look up the word "cancerous" in t...Please look up the word "cancerous" in the dictionary. "Cancerous person" doesn't mean what you think it means. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cancerous?s=t<br />Also, you CAN put adjectives before the noun in Spanish. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-27633967709796581602014-01-19T12:22:16.625-05:002014-01-19T12:22:16.625-05:00But I'm not an autistic, or an autistic person...But I'm not an autistic, or an autistic person; the autism doesn't define me and is only a problem, only a diagnosable disorder, because I struggle to overcome the difficulties it creates.<br /><br />I don't understand how "person with autism" implies that they are separate or non-integral any more than "person with a brain" implies that the brain is unimportant oranarishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13641841215322537392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-84292083201999027372014-01-14T09:26:46.431-05:002014-01-14T09:26:46.431-05:00Hello Lydia. I am on LinkedIn in several autism re...Hello Lydia. I am on LinkedIn in several autism related groups and would like to post a link to this article. May I?<br /><br />There are autistics, autism parents, and autism professionals on the site - quite a variety, and the "person first" comment recently derailed a discussion. I want to put the discussion out there, and hopefully survive the fallout. But it needs to be put out Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-92150508408938526032013-09-12T08:21:52.987-04:002013-09-12T08:21:52.987-04:00Thank you for educating me about the importance of...Thank you for educating me about the importance of language. Unfortunately, on my site I've used "persons with Aspergers or people with autism" far too much. Thanks to you, I'm going to be changing that. Your writing helps me be a better parent and therapist.Steve Borgmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014958922182705747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-88045710286144871632013-07-23T23:49:17.800-04:002013-07-23T23:49:17.800-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Evan Winghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14914159824988996752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-51815262098091624592013-05-25T23:48:09.632-04:002013-05-25T23:48:09.632-04:00@ Michael Forbes Wilcox: In my mind, autism is the...@ Michael Forbes Wilcox: In my mind, autism is the way anti-Autistics who think our Autism is seperable from us write it, whereas Autism is the way it should be written because it's an intrinsic part of our personalities and capitalising it helps us to define ourselves correctly. That's why I always capitalise it unless I have a reason not to, like in the paragraph above.Sheogorathhttp://www.aspergernauts.co.uk/forumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-65952251803141002442013-03-04T10:46:46.947-05:002013-03-04T10:46:46.947-05:00Hey Lydia
I am seeing your site, or references to ...Hey Lydia<br />I am seeing your site, or references to your site just about everywhere. I found this post through ASAN. I'm new to blogging on autism, but if you get a second, I would love to share my 12/15/12 post with you 'To Be or Not To Be Autistic' on my site: srsalas.com<br />ReneeRenee Salashttp://www.srsalas.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-46710526438507231642013-02-23T22:16:43.735-05:002013-02-23T22:16:43.735-05:00I have come over via the 'person first' po...I have come over via the 'person first' post on http://www.mmonjejr.com . this is another great blog and your post rightly points out how much the way the debate on the terminology is carried out is damaging communication and information or actual change of minds towards the less initiated. I am at the beginning of this journey with my son and am learning every day. I can't say other Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-48741465621428038262012-11-12T19:34:55.571-05:002012-11-12T19:34:55.571-05:00I have been trained to use the people-first perspe...I have been trained to use the people-first perspective for so long that it's automatic. Your perspective is eye-opening and very humbling - I will certainly be giving this a lot of thought, and likely reconsidering how I use people-first perspective in general. Thank you.GirlWithTheCanehttp://www.girlwiththecane.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-23277951711080014122012-09-11T12:20:54.343-04:002012-09-11T12:20:54.343-04:00When we refuse to call ourselves "persons wit...When we refuse to call ourselves "persons with autism" (and I agree with the refusal!), how do we get through training/employment in progrms that receive any Federal funds? Such programs ALL require staff/students to use "person with ____ " verbiage: you can be fired' or flunked from professional training, fir saying or writing "autistic person" in an exam-essay,KateGladstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07062492442607584456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-10251111059591528202012-08-19T01:35:27.392-04:002012-08-19T01:35:27.392-04:00Moreover, since, as you say, in English most impor...Moreover, since, as you say, in English most important word (the noun) usually comes last, how does it even linguistically make sense that it would de-emphasize the word "autism" to put that last in this position? In "autistic person" the noun (the most important thing that the adjective simply modifies) is right where it is expected to be. I find none of the arguments on kopankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00004799936804400635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-65877626812022809792012-08-19T01:01:12.277-04:002012-08-19T01:01:12.277-04:00It also should be considered that "person wit...It also should be considered that "person with autism" is simply unartful, gratuitously wordy language. It calls attention to itself because it's unnatural phraseology. This by itself puts the onus on the other side to justify their strained efforts. It is ironic that people advocating the simple use of "autistic person" are regarded as being excessively political and kopankohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00004799936804400635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-2671670801200777262012-06-20T05:03:03.905-04:002012-06-20T05:03:03.905-04:00we're refered to as autistic people and not pe...we're refered to as autistic people and not people who are autistic because of the general nervousness about what to call us. plus, its a pronounced disorder, commonly used as an insult (at least where i come from. and not just within the county.... within this one and all the counties around us) so it is how people become most accustomed to its use. besides, I am guilty of calling developed Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-61453286297080651172012-06-20T04:47:07.637-04:002012-06-20T04:47:07.637-04:00Again, not the above anonymous. I dont know who he...Again, not the above anonymous. I dont know who he or she (guessing she, i just figure moms as the type t say "my son" more. plus, most dads ive met dnt get into these chats as much as i think they should) is, but she's pretty clse.<br />That is how it works in real life. Autism isnt an ethnicity, or a religion, or a sexuality, no matter how special you want it to stick out. I may Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-77196372587638299212012-06-20T04:22:12.889-04:002012-06-20T04:22:12.889-04:00not same anonymous from above, let tha tbe said. s...not same anonymous from above, let tha tbe said. second, dont. my mom said those same things, and it just made me feel ashamed at first of not being good enough, but as she showed me she loved me i realized she did it more as instinctive way of explaining it in a normal way that others would understand. people do suffer from autism. its frustrating to ask for a peanut butter and jelly when you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com