tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post5706027101146341322..comments2023-05-09T06:00:19.599-04:00Comments on Autistic Hoya — A blog by Lydia X. Z. Brown (2011-2020): Privilege and the Myth of IndependenceLydia Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13484063914873791571noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-35095811479717379892015-06-04T12:09:53.292-04:002015-06-04T12:09:53.292-04:00Even with privileges, living independently is a ch...Even with privileges, living independently is a challenge to many. The problem is that the further a person is from being independent, the more likely the person is to be finding self in dire straits It's difficult to find partners to pool resources and for most, parental resources will run out with death, disability, retirement of parents and other loved ones. To end up in dangerous, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07636670946994161261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-46810670118388947992015-01-06T18:36:59.916-05:002015-01-06T18:36:59.916-05:00With this definition, interdependence is really co...With this definition, interdependence is really collective independence.James Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08457885930820196560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-69113045517453907552015-01-06T18:31:20.049-05:002015-01-06T18:31:20.049-05:00Perhaps passing should not be labeled as privilege...Perhaps passing should not be labeled as privilege. It involves trying to gain/maintain the privilege of another group. It can be quite stressful, pretending to be straight/neurotypical (or to follow another religion) out of fear of persecution.<br /><br />Also, I would define interdependence as a form of independence( Person A and Person B are interdependent, able to successfully navigate the James Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08457885930820196560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-85398356960438954272014-09-07T00:42:13.606-04:002014-09-07T00:42:13.606-04:00Lydia's usage of 'neurology' strikes m...Lydia's usage of 'neurology' strikes me not as casual but as formal, at least in a mathematical sense. For example topology is the study of certain mathematical spaces, the complete formal definition of an instance of which is itself called a topology; likewise, modern abstract algebra defines an algebra over an algebraic space (a ring or a field).<br /><br />In general, referring an Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-28044711743735260912014-03-08T09:52:36.644-05:002014-03-08T09:52:36.644-05:00Yes, absolutely. This post itself is centered on t...Yes, absolutely. This post itself is centered on the experiences of people growing up in the United States or Western Europe, and (without re-reading it in its entirety) probably doesn't acknowledge that whether or not Christians experience privilege often depends on which context we're discussing and which kind of Christian they are. For example, Christians do not experience privilege inLydia X. Z. Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04500253664516894122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-22611726184045828072014-03-08T05:20:12.494-05:002014-03-08T05:20:12.494-05:00Not sure what straight Christian means, but I'...Not sure what straight Christian means, but I'd like to point out the privilege west Christians have against the eastern ones, especially against old calendarists. Privileges can get broken down to the moment where they're almost meta.<br /><br />I find it hard to explain that to people from the country where Christian often means something bizarre, backwards, conservative and whored Ivahttp://iva-is.menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-57149619056167854122014-02-05T16:05:22.888-05:002014-02-05T16:05:22.888-05:00While I am ECSTATIC to have found your website &am...While I am ECSTATIC to have found your website & generally agree with your thoughts, I'd like to point out that we (Christians) ARE (to some extent) portrayed in a less than positive or friendly light. The mass media seems (in my opinion) to only mention the word "Christian" in a news story if it involves an angry protest or an anti-LGBT initiative. <br /><br />PSA TO AMERICAN Fallonhttp://uneprincesseecriture.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-529820740013370812013-08-21T09:10:19.656-04:002013-08-21T09:10:19.656-04:00I am a supposed NT working in an SpLD/MLD educatio...I am a supposed NT working in an SpLD/MLD educational environment within the UK. This was an interesting and challenging post with comments which I hope are widely read.I am not personally shy of admitting interdependence or privilege,however, the fallacy of personal independence as the embodiment of success remains undoubtedly the fictional state that is driven toward and, even when not clearly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-79171794178260104502013-03-07T14:00:20.480-05:002013-03-07T14:00:20.480-05:00If you stick it on a wall somewhere, can you send ...If you stick it on a wall somewhere, can you send me a picture? :)Lydia Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13484063914873791571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-60109080786657259612013-03-05T23:15:50.865-05:002013-03-05T23:15:50.865-05:00Another thing to bear in mind is that Western soci...Another thing to bear in mind is that Western societies, and the United States in particular, tend to moralize autonomy, which is not the case in many other cultural contexts. There's an interesting body of literature on this phenomenon in cultural psychology and sociology. Lydia Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13484063914873791571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-13677487687657727712012-11-18T00:58:16.155-05:002012-11-18T00:58:16.155-05:00I couldn't agree more about this post regardin...I couldn't agree more about this post regarding independence. I'm autistic and I attend college. Interdependence is not stressed enough since our society favors independence. Being a high-functioning autistic, people have high expectations for me to become independent since I have proven myself capable. Yet there are many things in my life where I need support. For instance, I don&#Christinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-36461383941464373412012-10-27T15:03:53.840-04:002012-10-27T15:03:53.840-04:00I was going to say a similar thing and was delight...I was going to say a similar thing and was delighted to find someone had already addressed it. Then there are the physical difficulties of being someone of considerable size, as I am. I cannot assume that if I go somewhere there will be somewhere for me to sit (chairs with arms often present considerable difficulty if not impossibility). I can't walk into just any store and find clothes to Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-21911390259315076632012-08-29T18:03:31.716-04:002012-08-29T18:03:31.716-04:00Lydia, this is really brilliantly expressed. I...Lydia, this is really brilliantly expressed. I'd add, too, that the notion of "independence" is a historically specific, modern and western one. It's an ideology more than a practice. Scratch the surface, as many have noted, and interdependence is standard. The kinds and the extent of support we get over their lives shifts according to all manner of things--their culture, KWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05604201876361027685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-84024595775890062092012-08-25T07:04:03.829-04:002012-08-25T07:04:03.829-04:00Great post! I really enjoyed reading your post yes...Great post! I really enjoyed reading your post yesterday about privileges and interdependence. It made me think of the definition of privilege, the principle or condition of enjoying special rights or immunities. I read your blog and the definition through a few times and thought about something I would like to write about on my blog. Privileges are granted to specific people, but that does not Jason Rosshttp://www.drivemomcrazy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-45077800904923904942012-08-25T00:55:16.975-04:002012-08-25T00:55:16.975-04:00This is almost my exact conclusion in Part 2 of my...This is almost my exact conclusion in Part 2 of my thesis... which ties into the need of lifting up and exploring the theological perspective when discussing models of disability. If anyone is interested in this type of discussion, please visit: http://faithfulneurodiversity.ning.com/forum/topics/thoughts-on-the-different-models-of-perceiving-autism-and-its-imp<br /><br />Lydia, since we previousAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206480568775805270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-70293528776357248122012-08-24T19:05:20.684-04:002012-08-24T19:05:20.684-04:00In general, in the US, people are more dependent o...In general, in the US, people are more dependent on the infrastructure of culture than ever before. There was a recent article in time magazine on the dependence of being connected in a wireless world, and as polled the perception among some was they could only do without their smart phones for a few hours. <br /><br />Human beings are social animals, and by very nature live interdependently. Katie Mia Frederickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336627766755378406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-31704018809698498682012-08-24T13:14:37.910-04:002012-08-24T13:14:37.910-04:00You addressed privilege quite nicely, but you stil...You addressed privilege quite nicely, but you still need to do another post to fully cover what she emailed you about (unless you did one covering this part already). You haven't said anything about how she clearly doesn't understand what a "support" is, how she uses them (or is dependent on their availability) every single day (possibly even every single moment), and would Marc Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12341671712800352129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-76836251181071697632012-08-24T13:04:11.194-04:002012-08-24T13:04:11.194-04:00Great post, Lydia. I'd like to add to the myth...Great post, Lydia. I'd like to add to the myth of independence -- "capacity" and "productivity," and further explore this with others. Estee Klar (www.esteeklar.com) Joy of Autism.Estee Klarhttp://www.esteeklar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-87731093589580191832012-08-24T11:11:56.189-04:002012-08-24T11:11:56.189-04:00Excellent exploration, Lydia. The idea of indepen...Excellent exploration, Lydia. The idea of independence is wrapped up in our idea of parenting, too. We already have the cultural theory that we "built this" by ourselves, when, really, generations have already paved our paths, others helped, environment supported us, etc. Our American idolization of independence says that to achieve success as a parent means raising an independent Brenda Rothman (Mama Be Good)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17399227210081662280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-59257140075982700922012-08-24T09:51:00.864-04:002012-08-24T09:51:00.864-04:00Awesome post Lydia. I basically want to print out ...Awesome post Lydia. I basically want to print out most of this and stick it on a wall somewhere.<br /><br />I actually think, for most of us, that this ideal of "independence" is a myth. For example, many people marry someone else who can cook due to their lack of cooking skills. The net result: *two* people eating good food instead of one, but somehow the non-cooker escapes the labelStephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-64122780019792041782012-08-24T09:19:20.418-04:002012-08-24T09:19:20.418-04:00Great post! I'd just like to add a privilege t...Great post! I'd just like to add a privilege to the list: thin privilege. I didn't invent this concept. Among other things, thin privilege includes the ability to be considered healthy, competent, intelligent, etc. by others without having to explain or defend herself (or himself). And to people who are going to respond to this with "thinness is a lifestyle/choice," that's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-338581633491322703.post-33225550234037500992012-08-24T08:59:45.241-04:002012-08-24T08:59:45.241-04:00Excellent point about interdependence, Lydia. I th...Excellent point about interdependence, Lydia. I think the goal of "independent" living is not so much to live alone as it is to be empowered to make life decisions. <br /><br />A couple of things I noticed along the way: (1) you use the word "race" in reference to "white privilege" and (2) you refer to the "neurology" of neurotypicals.<br /> <br />In the Michael Forbes Wilcoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07419791727731031675noreply@blogger.com